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GIRM... perna ka kamu dengar?

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Re: GIRM... perna ka kamu dengar?

Post by ies on Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:31 pm

jd grim ni slh satu peranan dia...kembali kpda y asal, mksd sy cara y lama o original la??

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Re: GIRM... perna ka kamu dengar?

Post by buhangkut on Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:04 pm

ngamlah tu... buku sembayang kita mcm banyak guna bahasa indon... patut guna bahasa sabah sendiri...

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Re: GIRM... perna ka kamu dengar?

Post by edy on Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:43 pm

ies wrote:jd grim ni slh satu peranan dia...kembali kpda y asal, mksd sy cara y lama o original la??


kembali kepada kekudusan...

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Re: GIRM... perna ka kamu dengar?

Post by edy on Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:44 pm

buhangkut wrote:ngamlah tu... buku sembayang kita mcm banyak guna bahasa indon... patut guna bahasa sabah sendiri...

inda buli harap sangat juga ni sebab selalunya malaysia ni lembab sikit... selalu shj indonesia mendahului dari segi "menterjemah"... jadi mau tidak mau, kita kena pakai yg dari indon...

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Re: GIRM... perna ka kamu dengar?

Post by MooK on Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:33 am

ni la org sekarang ni.. 1 org buat salah bukan kena tegur tapi yang lain pula pigi ikut buat salah.. bukan saja peraturan gereja terubah sendiri oleh umat tapi peraturan yang ada d mana² pun di ubah juga..

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Re: GIRM... perna ka kamu dengar?

Post by Ansis on Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:17 pm

taukah kenapa ini berlaku? sb manusia ni tabiat dia suka beradaptasi atau mengubah secara sengaja atau tdk semua hal sampai 'ngam' di hati... atau paling kurangpun memudahkan manusia... mcm mencuri bah, fikir sekali mmg mencuri tu berdosa, tp manusia ni pandai fikir yg dia mencuri kerana terpaksa... sb kalau bukan dia yg curi, org lain akan curi... mcm pigi sembahyang juga, terang2 salah kalau tdk pigi sembhayang hari minggu, tp ada yg akan cakap kalau pigi sembahyang tp hati busuk, tdk guna juga... maka itulah konon alasan dia tdk pigi smbhyang...

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Re: GIRM... perna ka kamu dengar?

Post by Ansis on Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:23 pm

saya baca itu panduan/peraturan GIRM, mcm susah juga mau faham oo...

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Re: GIRM... perna ka kamu dengar?

Post by edy on Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:35 pm

ya ba... mcm poco-poco... tarang2 bukan kita punya pun mo di adaptasi mcm kita punya suda pula.. ! malas ta ku ingau...

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Re: GIRM... perna ka kamu dengar?

Post by edy on Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:36 pm

Ansis wrote:saya baca itu panduan/peraturan GIRM, mcm susah juga mau faham oo...

Tuan... baca yg versi urang putih... senang sikit mo faham daripada yg versi indon...

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Re: GIRM... perna ka kamu dengar?

Post by edy on Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:49 pm

procession of the priest and ministers (GIRM 47)

1. The faithful stand and sing the Entrance Chant (GIRM 43, 47, 121)
2. Entrance procession of the ministers: (order) GIRM 120
a. server carrying the thurible with burning incense (when needed)
b. servers carry lighted candles & between them another server carrying the processional cross
c. other altar servers
d. extraordinary ministers of communion
e. 2 lectors (one of them carrying the Book of Gospels - BOG)
f. Priest celebrant.


ketika perarakan... paling depan
a) altar boys membawa kemenyan (jika perlu)
b) altar boys membawa salib
c) lain2 altar boys
d) Pelayan komuni
e) pembaca I & II : Pembaca I membawa buku INJIL
f) Paderi

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Re: GIRM... perna ka kamu dengar?

Post by edy on Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:51 pm

3. On reaching the altar, the priest celebrant and ministers make a profound bow to the altar. (GIRM 122)
4. Reader carrying the BOG places it on the altar. (GIRM 173)
5. Priest celebrant venerate the altar with a kiss & take his place at the sanctuary. GIRM 49, 50, 123, 124 (Readers’ seat at the sanctuary). 195
6. Priest put some incense into the thurible and incense the cross (3 swings) and the altar (single swing). – when needed (GIRM 123, 277)


Pembaca duduk di kawasan santuari (kawasan sekeliling altar)

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Re: GIRM... perna ka kamu dengar?

Post by edy on Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:53 pm

Perarakan masuk ini dilakukan dengan pergerakkan yg perlahan-lahan, tapi jan la terlalu perlahan... ia bergerak dengan khusyuk, anggun, suci dan penuh makna! seperti yg di awal tred ini saya nyatakan... jan jalan mcm rockers... Laughing

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Re: GIRM... perna ka kamu dengar?

Post by edy on Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:58 pm

Sign of the Cross
Signify we are the People of God - Whole gathering makes the Sign of the Cross. (GIRM 50, 124)

Greeting
(after the Greeting, a brief introduction to the Mass of the day may be made) Signifies the presence of the Lord to the community gathered. By this greeting and the people’s response, the mystery of the Church gathered together is made manifest. (GIRM 50)

Penitential Act

1. Brief pause for silence (GIRM 51)
2. Entire community carries out the formula of general confession (beating the breast as sign of repentance) with the priest’s absolution.

Kyrie Eleison
(Lord Have Mercy)
The faithful acclaim the Lord and implore his mercy. (GIRM 52)
The people and the choir sing the chant. (GIRM 52)

Gloria
(on Sundays, Solemnities & Feasts & at special celebrations of a more solemn character) The Church gathered together in the Holy Spirit glorifies and entreats God the Father and the Lamb. (GIRM 53)
1. Intonation by the priest (GIRM 53)
2. Everyone sing the hymn (GIRM 53)

The Collect
(Opening Prayer) character of the celebration is expressed. (GIRM 54)
1. Priest invites the people to pray. (GIRM 54)
2. All observe a brief silence – conscious that they are in God’s presence & may formulate their petitions mentally (GIRM 54)
3. Priest says the prayer (GIRM 54)
4. The people make the prayer their own with: Amen. (GIRM 54)

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